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[#][F] Holden - 1/28/2013
Gayo wrote:
Holden is on the record (well, the web forum record) as saying that they had the freedom to choose any sort of system they wanted or build a new one from scratch, and stuck with ST because it's familiar and intuitive and has some probabilistic traits they liked. Honestly, I think keeping the Ability/Attribute spread was more perverse than keeping ST; I'm cool with ST if you distill it down to the most basic level.


Keeping Attribute/Ability spreads was a recognition that we can make the core engine work fine almost no matter what we do there; the Attribute/Ability spreads are primarily useful as channels for Charm design, and the EX2 spread was pretty good for that.

[#][F] Holden - 1/28/2013
Count Dorku wrote:
Limited Reagent wrote:
The difference between an RPG and a novel is that a novel gives you the answers to your questions by the end of the book, whereas you play and RPG and create the answers to the questions yourself (or the ST does. Whatever).

The trick, you see, the trick to writing good RPG mystery is providing enough clues to not only leave the mystery open enough to create different answers to the proposed questions, but also lead the game players into creating interesting answers.

I hope you can see why your silly Plutonian Exalted example fails in this regard.


The Plutonian-Style Mystery Novel:

"Once upon a time, there were some people in a place. Then one of them was murdered!"


Actually, it would be: "Once upon a time, there were some people in a place. Something happened!"

[#][F] Holden - 1/27/2013
marin wrote:
Holden wrote:
Corolinth wrote:
Oh, Liminals have something to do with death or undeath? So that Alchemicals sidebar about the secret history of soulsteel was really just a cheap, thinly-veiled ploy to seed the product line for another hardcover Manual of Exalted Power. I am so surprised by this turn of events.

It's a shame, really. I want to give third edition a chance, but people just keep reminding me why I'm not impressed with the current writers.


Nope, the two have nothing to do with one another.

Also that sidebar dates back to the first edition Alchemicals book.


Corolinth's claimed this before, and got shot down by John.


Ah. So he's trolling, then.

[#][F] Holden - 1/27/2013
Corolinth wrote:
Oh, Liminals have something to do with death or undeath? So that Alchemicals sidebar about the secret history of soulsteel was really just a cheap, thinly-veiled ploy to seed the product line for another hardcover Manual of Exalted Power. I am so surprised by this turn of events.

It's a shame, really. I want to give third edition a chance, but people just keep reminding me why I'm not impressed with the current writers.


Nope, the two have nothing to do with one another.

Also that sidebar dates back to the first edition Alchemicals book.

[#][F] Holden - 1/26/2013
Thief-of-Faces wrote:
I have not read or played Wraith, but this really intrigues me.
Could try to make them more distinct from the Dual Monarchy, but yes.

How are the Wrath Deathlords portrayed moralwise, might I ask?


As Roman senators.

Which is to say, mostly a bunch of self-interested jerks, but not entirely.

[#][F] Holden - 1/26/2013
If people are really interested in a living vs dead / Creation vs Underworld debate, it'd be nice if they spun that out to another thread so it doesn't drown out the Abyssal discussion going on here.

[#][F] Holden - 1/26/2013
Lafing Cat wrote:
Arrakiz wrote:
And from what I recall, its about people wanting to be able to play Abyssals who can actually make death and the Underworld an alternative to life. Nobody objects it should be pretty bad at a starting point, but it would be neat to see abyssals have some way of making it better for the dead to the point of making the living jealous of what ghosts can have. And of course not only making it possible, but also one of relevant play-styles.


At such a time as being a ghost becomes objectively better than being alive, it becomes a moral imperative for *everyone*, not just Abyssals, to murder the world.

Which, I mean, is a thing. I'm not exactly sure it's a thing I want Exalted to be about.


I am so tired of binary arguments.

[#][F] Holden - 1/26/2013
John Mørke wrote:
Eldagusto was lurking for a second and I got excited.

Then he left emotion-9.gif


You got Eldagustowned.

[#][F] Holden - 1/25/2013
Hecaton wrote:
Holden wrote:
In 3e, Abyssals will trail rainbows after their sword swings, and rather than Crypt Bolts, they will fire kittens out of their fingertips. Their old Charmset will become the new Liminal Charm set. We thought that would be a fantastic idea.

(Come on, seriously? :p)


I think John might have gone about setting up his defense of that word choice in the wrong way. There's been a constant insistence that 'no, Abyssals were always alive' since that idea was thrown around.

Given the charm that's posted, would it be okay to assume a charm that, say, let a character ignore pain because corpses just don't give a fuck might be workable for both Abyssals and Liminals?


Wouldn't be very Liminal-appropriate because they're pointed in the other direction.