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[#][F] Stephen Lea Sheppard - 1/31/2013
John Mørke wrote:
Aranis wrote:
Starglyte wrote:
What I find most interesting about the Chosen of Masks is that she traded her face for the Exaltation. Opens up all sorts of possibilities on who can be Exalted.

Keep in mind that the enforced heroism and epicness of 2E isn't making a return. So that actually naturally allows for characters like this new Chosen of Masks.


wat


He means Exalts will no longer require epic motivations to qualify for Exaltation. He is guessing this means that, if indeed you can now meet people who negotiated for Exaltations, some of them may have done so out of selfish desires.

[#][F] Stephen Lea Sheppard - 1/30/2013
John Mørke wrote:
Eternal_King wrote:
Day_Dreamer wrote:
John Mørke wrote:
I could hit targets before I bought Accuracy Without Distance. Worst. Charm. Ever. emotion-5.gif



Eh...

Its just... how to put this.

This feels like something a skilled mortal should be able to do. If someone shows up on my doorstep unannounced and asks to be let in, I'll shut the door. If they bring up the fact that it is Passover and I'm supposed to let them in, even though I'm an Atheist I still will. My culture is a strong part of me, even though all of its traditions are not.

If it was a charm, I would imagine it as a Dragon-Blooded charm. Part of the fun of Solar charms was their over-the-top nature, even at E2. The E2 socialize charms let you make everyone in a room love you. Or believe that someone was evil.

They were things that, when I first went through the Core, I wanted all of them. They were cool on their own. Even without knowing what any of the numbers or names meant.



Yeah.

That feels like a neat trick.
Like something that is useful, but not really powerful, something like a minor advantage.

You can kill with AWD at one mile.
This sounds like it's giving you an ability to load your bow with an arrow, not to make it fly.


If a neat trick lets you go knocking on doors of houses belonging to the Taliban without getting you murdered, then I'll take a neat trick. Creation isn't your neighborhood or anything like it.



When you put it like that, the degree to which it's useful is much more apparent. Creation is not a nice place.

(OTOH, how many groups actually run Creation as arbitrarily and unpleasantly violent and resource-scarce as Earth in the past?)

[#][F] Stephen Lea Sheppard - 1/30/2013
I invoke the right of parlay!

[#][F] Stephen Lea Sheppard - 1/30/2013
danelsan wrote:
I wonder what sorts of truly bizarre food and drinks you get on those tribes living near the wyld, or sold/offered as a temptation by the Raksha... anyone wants a dose of fermented dream with fire juice, cooled with frozen nostalgia?

For something to become a cultural touchstone, it needs to be produced reliably.

Generally speaking tribes living near the Wyld will have an abhorrence of Wyld-tainted shit, and traditions set against letting it gain traction.

[#][F] Stephen Lea Sheppard - 1/30/2013
Pretty much exactly the same social pressures as act against any taboo in real societies. It won't stop everybody doing the thing, but it will move it out of favor.

[#][F] Stephen Lea Sheppard - 1/30/2013
Mizu005 wrote:
...He has already built the new fair folk magic?


God, no. This was the Fair Folk errata. Back when Chicanery-No was still current joke.

[#][F] Stephen Lea Sheppard - 1/30/2013
Isator Levi wrote:
Stephenls wrote:
It was a happy moment, when we realized that the audience is perfectly willing to accept an implicit chicanery-no keyword provided you respect their intelligence elsewhere in the material.


Oh, trying to sweet-talk us, eh?

I'm wise to youses tricks, Mr Pcknpackopcklis.

No, that actually happened. I remember Holden sending me a message via AIM that amounted to "Holy shit, I just realized I built the new Fair Folk magic around chicanery-no and nobody's complaining!" We were astounded, because neither of us saw it coming.

[#][F] Stephen Lea Sheppard - 1/29/2013
I'm pretty fond myself of the idea of a Solar being able to influence a society by engaging in street oration. However, this would probably be modeled better by using street oration to lay the foundation for something mechanically treated as an organization with the Solar as a leader, and then pitting that organization against the local culture-keepers for purposes of determining what the local cultural norms are.

That way you get street oratory -> counterculture -> main society begins fighting back with censorship and counter-propaganda -> actual conflict you can engage with, rather than just street oratory -> cultural change via some vague mechanism that can't be countered.

Note: I haven't actually seen the social rules. This is me extrapolating from Masters of Jade's Creation-Ruling Mandate.

[#][F] Stephen Lea Sheppard - 1/29/2013
It was a happy moment, when we realized that the audience is perfectly willing to accept an implicit chicanery-no keyword provided you respect their intelligence elsewhere in the material.

[#][F] Stephen Lea Sheppard - 1/29/2013
The beginnings of tea technology is when people are starving enough that they're willing to try boiling leaves and tree bark and stuff to extract its nutrients. There is basically nothing that people have not tried to boil into edibility.

So, tea. Tea made from bark. Tea made from nettles. Tea made from leaves. Anything sufficiently non-toxic that drinking it boiled is better than starving to death eventually gets turned into some culture's ritualistic gourmet beverage.

And just as there's nothing people will not try to boil, there's nothing they will not try to ferment.

[#][F] Stephen Lea Sheppard - 1/29/2013
Oh, man, you quit just before the ministrife.

[#][F] Stephen Lea Sheppard - 1/29/2013
tluthal wrote:
Stephenls wrote:
tluthal wrote:
John Mørke wrote:
Furthermore, other beneficial behaviors are not immediately obvious; a Lawgiver who wants a group to realize the wondrous benefits of regular bathing should remain in the area long enough for these benefits to materialize.


I read this, and all I could think was "Hi Loq!" XD Which lead to the folllowing in the exalted skype chat I run: [Spoilered for foul language. I normally wouldn't but almost every line is... yeah XD Twilights that'd make sailors blanch are fun.]

"YOU IDIOTIC ASSHOLES, HAVE SOME SOAP AND WATER. NOW GO BATHE. I'M NOT LEAVING UNTIL YOU'RE CLEAN."
"NOW SEE HOW MUCH HEALTHIER YOU MORONS ARE?"
"AND HOW MUCH LESS DISGUSTINGLY PUNGENT?!"
"SWEET SOL THIS IS BASIC SHIT YOU CHUCKLEFUCKS."
"AND STOP HAVING SEX WITH PEOPLE WHO ARE SICK FOR LUNA'S SAKE! HOW DO YOU THINK YOU KEEP GETTING THE FOREIGN LESION?!"
"AND HERE. HERE IS SOME SHEEPSGUTS I TURNED INTO A MIRACLE MATERIAL. PUT IT ON YOUR DICK."
"YES I KNOW IT DULLS SENSATION. IT MAKES YOU LAST LONGER AND MAKES YOUR WIFE HAPPY YOU INSENSITIVE IGNORAMUS."
"PLUS IT'S A PROTOTYPE."
And then Loq invented the perfect condom. It requires a thaumaturgical ritual, which leads to...
"OH AND SEND ALL YOUR KIDS TO ME FOR THREE HOURS A DAY. THOSE FUCKERS'LL BE SMARTER, STRONGER, AND GENERALLY BETTER THAN ANY GENERATION IN LIVING MEMORY."


Karkat?


Gilgamesh Wulfenbach.


That's not Gil. That's Karkat Vantas. I would recognize that tone anywhere.

You need to read Homestuck now, I'm afraid. Just set aside some time; it's got a slow start.

[#][F] Stephen Lea Sheppard - 1/29/2013
Hm.

Any system that requires an organization to have a codified leader is going to fly in the face of social models where actions arise spontaneously out of larger social trends[1], or where leadership arises out of difficult-to-quantify interactions between a small-to-medium-sized group.

But all this stuff is absurdly difficult to model usefully. You have to accept some level of abstraction.

[1] I'm still reading Seeing Like A State, and it has a pretty convincing argument that the bolsheviks actually had sweet fuck-all to do with inciting or organizing the October Revolution, and were mostly a well-organized group of folks who had convinced themselves that because they had foreseen the revolution, and had spent a lot of time talking and writing publicly about how it was coming, they must be the ones who were causing it, and who then recognized the power vacuum left in its wake and managed to convince enough people after-the-fact that they'd been in charge that they managed to assume control over what was left of the social infrastructure.

[#][F] Stephen Lea Sheppard - 1/29/2013
tluthal wrote:
John Mørke wrote:
Furthermore, other beneficial behaviors are not immediately obvious; a Lawgiver who wants a group to realize the wondrous benefits of regular bathing should remain in the area long enough for these benefits to materialize.


I read this, and all I could think was "Hi Loq!" XD Which lead to the folllowing in the exalted skype chat I run: [Spoilered for foul language. I normally wouldn't but almost every line is... yeah XD Twilights that'd make sailors blanch are fun.]

"YOU IDIOTIC ASSHOLES, HAVE SOME SOAP AND WATER. NOW GO BATHE. I'M NOT LEAVING UNTIL YOU'RE CLEAN."
"NOW SEE HOW MUCH HEALTHIER YOU MORONS ARE?"
"AND HOW MUCH LESS DISGUSTINGLY PUNGENT?!"
"SWEET SOL THIS IS BASIC SHIT YOU CHUCKLEFUCKS."
"AND STOP HAVING SEX WITH PEOPLE WHO ARE SICK FOR LUNA'S SAKE! HOW DO YOU THINK YOU KEEP GETTING THE FOREIGN LESION?!"
"AND HERE. HERE IS SOME SHEEPSGUTS I TURNED INTO A MIRACLE MATERIAL. PUT IT ON YOUR DICK."
"YES I KNOW IT DULLS SENSATION. IT MAKES YOU LAST LONGER AND MAKES YOUR WIFE HAPPY YOU INSENSITIVE IGNORAMUS."
"PLUS IT'S A PROTOTYPE."
And then Loq invented the perfect condom. It requires a thaumaturgical ritual, which leads to...
"OH AND SEND ALL YOUR KIDS TO ME FOR THREE HOURS A DAY. THOSE FUCKERS'LL BE SMARTER, STRONGER, AND GENERALLY BETTER THAN ANY GENERATION IN LIVING MEMORY."


Karkat?

[#][F] Stephen Lea Sheppard - 1/29/2013
There were two obvious problems with the way oWoD handled metaplot:

1) The relentless progression of time. Say it is January 2005, and a book has just been released that happens to mention some particularly interesting thing about Detroit in Werewolf, some novel sept structure or something. It catches your interest. You know that in June 2005, Rage Across Detroit is due out. Now you're looking forward to it.

But wait! In APRIL 2005, some other book has a big vampire rampage across Detroit and devastate the local werewolf population. June 2005 rolls around and sure enough, it's about post-rampage Detroit. Whatever you were looking forward to is gone, and will never receive coverage, because the oWoD metaplot progressed relentlessly forward.

2) Written like a serial. The oWoD metaplot was written like a dramatic arc—plot twists and unexpected surprises and an attempt to keep people guessing and wanting to buy the next book to see what came next. A CLAN WILL FALL! THE ANCIENTS WILL RISE! Etc. This meant it was hard to incorporate material from it into your games.

Ex3's timeline isn't either of those things. We're not going to say that just because the Mask of Winters conquers the Marukani in RY 773 in a book published in July, from August onward we're never covering the unconquered Marukani again. (Example pulled out of my ass; I know of no plans to write up the Mask's conquest of anyone or anywhere besides Thorns.) The setting is the whole timeline, and we're not devoted to covering it linearly. Nor will it be written to incorporate a lot of SHOCKING TWEESTS. It'll mostly be about portraying the progression of organizational politics over time, so that by example players and STs will have a better idea of how large-scale organizations interact over time. When the PCs start grabbing hold of large-scale organizations, STs will be better able to run the world's reactions.

So I suspect that stuff that WOULD count as a shocking tweest, like an Autochthonian incursion, will mostly be kept out of the timeline. That way STs who want to use it can actually shiock the players with it.

Exalted has so many things to wow you with, we don't need to do it with a shocking and unpredictable metaplot. To the extent that the timeline is meant to excite and impress, we want to excite and impress you with well-thought and useful it is.