Originally posted by Jefepato
Is Phoenix Renewal Tactic applicable to the Nightmare Torrent power of Ixier, Who Dreams for the Dead? There doesn't appear to be any clear defense for that one.
...Whether risking a potentially substantial Willpower loss is actually worth it to avoid losing 1d10 Initiative is, of course, another matter entirely. Most Solars can probably beat Ixier like a pinata and take their Initiative back easily enough. But still.
I wouldn't classify it as a shaping effect, although nothing breaks if you do let players use Phoenix Renewal Tactic against it.