volkmar wrote: John Mørke wrote: volkmar wrote:
Thank you for this post.
Here a few questions.
Exalts types usually try to cover all bases, no matter what their general theme is. So you have No moon lunars, Not of Secrets Sidereals and so on.
How will this be done with Lunars? The Barbarian theme does not really do well when you are thinking of a crafter, a scholar, a bard or any other profession BASED on civilization and the existence of non-essential commodities.
In shorts what I would like to hear is your idea of what a scholar/craftsman/bard barbarian looks like and how the Lunar exaltation helps you in that.
The first thing to recognize is that they might originate with barbarians but after that it's just an association. The Silver Pact exists as a network sitting above barbarian culture, not drawing on it. The elder Lunars have seen the First Age, so they do not necessarily adapt a barbaric set of values. Rather, Lunars are animalistic, savage, and bestial by nature, and are right at home living in the wilderness, so their circles tend to cross through barbarian society and territory as a matter of course. That said, someone who is savage, barbaric, and bestial is not mutually exclusive to someone who can build a daiklave, or repair the weather controls in Rathess.
Thank you for your answer.
I understood from what you gents said that lunars are now thematically savages, instead of literal savages. Meaning they look like savages but are not necessarily so. (Cue Leviathan speaking with Victorian English accent and words from now on)
Pretty much. That illustration from the Modern Age chapter of Shards is a pretty good depiction of the kind of style you can expect from an urban Lunar-- graceful, sophisticated, and as soon as that elevator finishes closing, something terrible is going to happen in there.
I was merely curious how does that help in making daiklaves or repairing the weather controls in Rathess or in any other thing that requires a bit more specialized knowledge than "hammer, nail, hit" assuming a Lunar would not be out of place doing any of those things.
I'm also curious if shapeshifting would come into this somewhere. Ie: could you have a "smart" form, maybe taking on demon or spiritual shapes?
Shapeshifting doesn't help you with those things. (Well, I mean, maybe you could turn into a mouse to crawl inside a sky mantis tower and jigger some delicate parts back into alignment by hand? I dunno. Mostly it doesn't.)
It's not like Lunars have some kind of special brain damage that makes them less-able to learn things than other Exalts. They can study Lore, Craft, Occult, sure. Their magic isn't the best in the world at building stuff, although they have stuff to help with it. They're certainly not the peers of the Solars in that category or anything (but then, who is?).
Generally speaking, as a group, Lunars are less dependent on external props than anyone else-- from artifacts to infrastructure-- and this is one reason why they tend to favor simple, robust tools that are either very difficult to break, or which are easy to replace.
That said, keep in mind-- they have Intelligence Charms. You will, from time to time, see Lunar Tony Stark building amazing shit in a cave, out of scraps. But as a whole they don't trend toward sophisticated big-scale manufacturing projects, in large part because the majority of Lunars don't like doing anything
that requires them to set up an immobile and semi-permanent base of operations, like a fully-stocked-and-kitted artificer's workshop. It's more common to see a Lunar set up a temporary work site, build a daiklave or some armor or some similar piece of personal kit for himself or for someone else, and then break down the site, hide any of the components he can't easily replace, and then move on until he needs it again some years later. Most Lunars operate on wartime footing at all times, and they are all priority targets.*
*There are exceptions to all these things, and they tend to be interesting subjects in their own right.