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[#][F] Stephen Lea Sheppard - 2/11/2014
Whenever I deved, I always hated the idea of publishing cut content, but then I aggressively edited and re-wrote to ensure that nothing I thought worthy of inclusion was left out, which meant the cut content was always, ultimately, stuff I didn't want in the public eye, and especially didn't want people thinking was "Stuff that might as well be canon, and was only cut for space."

[#][F] Holden - 2/11/2014
Not sure why we would want to do previews of things that won't be in the game, or work that was not good enough to make the cut. Where's the upside?

[#][F] The Demented One - 2/11/2014
legacy system ;__;

[#][F] Eric Minton - 2/11/2014
Originally posted by Robert Vance View Post
"Hero with a magical dog" is too rich and resonant a thing to not eventually show up somehow as an Exigent design. It is plausible that an Exigent that fulfilled that role might also be designed to be compatible with other choices of magical companion species.
I can think of one noteworthy example.

[#][F] The Demented One - 2/10/2014
Originally posted by Chejop Kejak View Post
... though all of those also sound like specialties of some other sort of Exalt, which could also be closely tied to Tyrant Lizards. Hurm. Why are we going out of our way to concept this as an Exigent, again?
"Hero with a magical dog" is too rich and resonant a thing to not eventually show up somehow as an Exigent design. It is plausible that an Exigent that fulfilled that role might also be designed to be compatible with other choices of magical companion species.

[#][F] The Demented One - 2/10/2014
Originally posted by Tiresias View Post
So we know the Exigent hardback will have support for charms and (presumably) anima powers, but will it also have support for non-standard powers like Sidereal Astrology? Or even just more complicated variations of standard powers, like Alchemical charm design?
If I were given the job of writing the "how to write charms" chunk, I would definitely want to include advice in essay form on how to design effects that do not boil down to statistical modifiers or remodelings of pre-existing Charms.

[#][F] The Demented One - 2/10/2014
Originally posted by Mewtarthio View Post

It really depends on why you want a Tyrant Lizard Exalt. If you just want the aesthetics, I'm certain that the Chosen of Tyrant Lizards will get the ability to turn into a Tyrant Lizard. Not much point in being Chosen otherwise, is there?
I would design animal-totemed Exigents around familiars, rather than shapeshifting.

[#][F] Stephen Lea Sheppard - 2/10/2014
Somewhere, some Circle of Solars is going to meet a "Wyld Hunt" consisting of a bunch of Dragon-Blooded lead by a charismatic idiot, who argues that with the power of righteousness and the blood of the dragons on their side, they will surely triumph against these Anathema, and things like tactics and forethought are a waste of time they can't spare. These Solars are going to have a difficult but straightforward fight, but they will win, and then they will stand around with puzzled looks on their faces going "Wait, that's it? That's the fabled Wyld Hunt?" But it probably won't happen twice, and I wouldn't count on it happening to you.

[#][F] Stephen Lea Sheppard - 2/10/2014
Maddy: I think we're all trying to argue the exact same point, but each using examples hyperbolic in slightly different directions, and then reading that as disagreement. Tiresias: The 2e partyline on the Wyld Hunt was "It's broken and useless and not really a threat unless you're unlucky," which was generally the 2e partyline on the Realm. 3e isn't going with that. I was actually shooting for the fairly nuanced 1e Wyld Hunt partyline, in which they're underfunded and desperate but still fucking dangerous, and also I was speaking specifically of the formal Wyld Hunt institution; 3e puts more focus on ad hoc Wyld Hunts which can be dangerous as fuck but I assume the shikari are still a factor. Admittedly invoking the Pinnacle of the Eye of the Hunt was probably a mistake as that book's not so great. Holden: Sorry for missing my target. (All: Apologies; my work browser doesn't let me insert linebreaks into my posts when it interfaces with this forum software.)

[#][F] The Demented One - 2/10/2014
Originally posted by Armstrong Thunderbolt View Post
....my mind is full of wat.
It's actually pretty simple! Maybe sample characters/skill uses would help.

Scott Pilgrim
• Yes! 4
• Hmm... 1
• Hah! 2
• Sigh... 3
• ^_^ 1
• ??? 3
Skill: First Person Protagonist (Yes! + First Person Protagonist: Do things! Assert narrative agency! Beat all the people up! Drive the plot forward!)

Hermione Granger
• Yes! 1
• Hmm... 5
• Hah! 1
• Sigh... 3
• ^_^ 3
• ??? 1
Skill: Witchcraft (Hmm... + Witchcraft: Think about a problem until you figure out a spell to solve it with. Carry out a long-term magical project, like brewing polyjuice potion or enchanting your handbag to be bigger on the inside)

Ninja Tathagata
• Yes! 1
• Hmm... 2
• Hah! 5
• Sigh... 1
• ^_^ 2
• ??? 3
Skill: Ninja Bodhisattva (Hah! + Ninja Bodhisattva: Scoff at things like being noticed by your enemies, being harmed in a fight, or the pervasive characteristic of suffering that permeates reality!)

Utena Tenjou
• Yes! 3
• Hmm... 1
• Hah! 2
• Sigh... 4
• ^_^ 1
• ??? 2
Skill: Being a Prince (Sigh... + Being a Prince: Be excellent with a sword, but not at wanting to use it. Challenge someone to a fight and win when they've crossed a line you can't allow them to cross.)

Coyote
• Yes! 2
• Hmm... 1
• Hah! 2
• Sigh... 1
• ^_^ 5
• ??? 3
Skill: Trickster God (^_^ + Trickster God: One-up those who are narratively in need of being one-upped with your trickster god shenanigans. Pull off illusions or miracles that function primarily to entertain the players and just generally be cool and only secondarily to accomplish things in-game.)

Haruko Haruhara
• Yes! 3
• Hmm... 1
• Hah! 3
• Sigh... 1
• ^_^ 2
• ??? 4
Skill: Space Pirate (??? + Space Pirate: Pull giant robots out of a kid's head. Turn the narrative portrayal of events into a series of manga panels. Ride a flying vespa off into the sunset.)


You could put all these characters together, and then have them fight crime!

[#][F] Holden - 2/10/2014
Aspect Exalts work differently from Solars, as a general thing.

[#][F] Holden - 2/10/2014
Also why have I got one of my people in here laying out the 2e party line on the Wyld Hunt, what is going on in this thread.

[#][F] Holden - 2/10/2014
You've got a fair bit there that's off-target, Aquillion. I don't say that often, but I'm saying it here.

[#][F] The Demented One - 2/10/2014
Armies are useful. They let you go off and conquer places without actually having to be there, can protect places while you're away, and back you up in a fight. In a 1v1 between a Solar without an army and a Solar with an army, assuming both are equally invested into combat, the one with the army is going to have an advantage, because army.

Want to take out the guy's army? Infiltrate their barracks in disguise and turn the men against their generals. Stealthily poison their food supply. Pick a fight in a location that can't hold armies, or ambush the the other guy while his army is not there. Use powerful offensive sorcery. Piece together a ragtag band of fighters and train them until they can hold their own against an elite, better-equipped army. Lure the army into a fight with a tyrant lizard. Lots of options.

[#][F] Stephen Lea Sheppard - 2/10/2014
Kardashians is a bad shorthand and I apologize.

A lot of Dragon-Blooded are like "Rich, entitled scion of a powerful family #8." They're generally rote-versed in being life-capable in a way average people aren't -- as I said, they're not the Upperclass Twit of the Year brigade as a rule, which is what Maddy seemed to be suggesting they are -- but that's largely because of a cultural upbringing and education system that runs from bordering on child abuse to actual child abuse and in fact occasionally just straight-up kills kids who don't show enough potential (some of whom may have Exalted if they hadn't died from parental neglect and abuse). They lead interesting lives to the extent that anyone leads an interesting life. (See that The Invisibles issue that's just the biography of Random Guard #3 from birth through schooling and adolescence, first love, marriage, children, up until being offhandedly murdered with a quip by the star of the comic in the previous issue.)

This doesn't make them all Joffrey, but it can make them that nameless (?) younger Lannister cousin who serves the poisoned wine to Robert Baratheon and later sleeps with Cersi. And it can certainly make them into the "How dare you do this to me; do you know why my father is?" guy you meet on safari. (He said that because you stood between him and someone clearly uncomfortable with his romantic attentions BTW.) They're not all inherently protagonist fodder; the Realm's Dragon-Blooded Host contains the entire range of human experience from unmotivated twits (who can still probably annoyingly kick most mortals' asses across the room with martial arts their instructors drilled into their heads when they were ages eight through sixteen, and oh boy does that not hurt their fragile egos and entitlement complexes) to Tepet Ejava.