Fanservice wrote: fata_ku wrote:
But they're not. 7 Devils Clever isn't what I'd call a Cannibal Murder Beast. No more than a splat having Elemental Bolt make every character of that splat "An [Element]-Bender". Solars aren't _just_ killing machines, Sidereals aren't _just_ Astrology Ninjas. Though you do have the option to play them as such.
7 Devils Clever is very cool and I'd love to see more Lunar's like her! I am actually arguing for Lunar's to not be the "Cannibal" splat. Which they're not going to be so yay me.
Seven Devil Clever existed in 1e, when there was no way to get human forms aside from cannibal murder. Seven Devil Clever exhibited multiple human forms in 2e without the traits necessary to acquire them without cannibal murder.
Seven Devil Clever is a cannibal murderer. You don't acquire the cred necessary to pull off a name like "As clever as seven devils" without doing devilish things. Did you really assume she didn't? Because I always assumed she did. It's kinda like how dealing with vampires you can assume that the vampire you're talking to has probably committed a few erotically charged murders and, you know, that's that.
Cannibalism isn't SDC's only
thing. She does a lot of other stuff! It's not something that defines her, it's clearly more of a hobby! Unless, of course, you're the sort of person to get hung up on that sort of thing, in which case she is far from the only NPC you're going to interact with who has done things you won't approve of. The Slug is right over there, using slave-girls in his brothels. He's one of the Realm's comparative good guys!
Look, the Age of Sorrows is a savage adventure venue. It can be assumed that most heroic-tier people, i.e. people who have accomplished great things, have skeletons in their closet. You can assume that any hero you talk to has probably engaged in some murderous thuggery, any ruler you treat with has probably had political dissidents assassinated and engaged in public works projects that involved working a bunch of slaves to death. As far as the majority of people in the setting are concerned, that sort of thing ain't no thing
. Eating a few peoples' hearts so you can have some prepared disguises is basically not a big deal unless you're squeamish.
Incidentally, regarding the Lunars 1e rape sidebar: The Lunar 1e book has two
rape sidebars. There's one in Chapter 1, on page 27, written by Malcolm Sheppard, and one in Chapter 2, on page 71, written by Ethan Skemp. If you will compare the two, you will note that the sidebar in Chapter 1 is short, to the point, comprehensive, does not use particularly evocative imagery, takes a general approach of "Deal with it or don't, but know what you're doing," and is basically perfect. The one in Chapter 2 is completely awful. This is largely because Malcolm Sheppard is totally comfortable taking the setting's inclusion of uncomfortable subject matter as a given and talking about it in a matter-of-fact fashion, while Ethan Skemp was really uncomfortable doing that and had to make a big squicky deal out of it.
My position on cannibal murderbeasts as expressed in the book is basically that it should be dealt with in the manner of the Chapter 1 sidebar. "This a thing, keep that in mind, next topic."