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[#][F] John Mørke - 2/20/2013
notthepenguins wrote:
John Mørke wrote:
Epimetheus wrote:
Segev wrote:
I admit that this new flood of additional Exalt types has me leery. It feels...forced, or like the kind of thing one sees in fanfic. I know this isn't fanfic, and I hope it's an incredibly unfair instinct, as I respect the writers of this line more than that, but it keeps bumping my "spidey sense" the wrong way, if that makes any sense.

Trust me I get the same feeling. So long as we can ignore them and they remain periphery I'll be fine with them myself.


I recall a lot of posts where you were not OK about the Sidereals being ignored at the periphery.

What does that have to do with the new Exalt types being able to be ignored without problem?


The point is that the mistreatment of Sidereals was miserable for fans of Sidereals. There will also be fans of the new Exalts. The presumption in his post (and Segev's, and yours) is that there won't be.

You can ignore Solars if you want. If you ask that I make them peripheral so it's easier for you to ignore them, I laugh in your face.

[#][F] John Mørke - 2/20/2013
Mostlyjoe wrote:
John Mørke wrote:

Some with the Kickstarter, others with the corebook, some in future releases.






Okay. Will the "Universal" be shown during the KS though?


I can't say what will be in the KS.

[#][F] John Mørke - 2/20/2013
Epimetheus wrote:
Segev wrote:
I admit that this new flood of additional Exalt types has me leery. It feels...forced, or like the kind of thing one sees in fanfic. I know this isn't fanfic, and I hope it's an incredibly unfair instinct, as I respect the writers of this line more than that, but it keeps bumping my "spidey sense" the wrong way, if that makes any sense.

Trust me I get the same feeling. So long as we can ignore them and they remain periphery I'll be fine with them myself.


I recall a lot of posts where you were not OK about the Sidereals being ignored at the periphery.

[#][F] John Mørke - 2/20/2013
Mostlyjoe wrote:
John Mørke wrote:
If you think the Sidereal/Lunar conflict sounds awesome, wait until we mix in the new Chosen.






John, since we are on the painful side of the wait for the kickstarter I'm going to politely ask this:

May we please have their name?


Some with the Kickstarter, others with the corebook, some in future releases.



[#][F] Eric Minton - 2/20/2013
Segev wrote:
Gaius wrote:
If true, some people may need to adjust their definition of what it means to be Exalted. But I kinda like the idea of Exalted types given great power that, as a splat, are not assumed to shape the world on a Creation-wide scale.

See, that also bugs me. It's getting dangerously close to a bait-and-switch, or to making "Exaltation" a "mark of what we want to be a PC" rather than a meaningful statement of being mighty Chosen of [something] that are all, always, individually meaningful.
The notion that a hero's actions aren't meaningful unless they shape the world on a Creation-wide scale is unhealthy for the setting.

[#][F] John Mørke - 2/20/2013
If you think the Sidereal/Lunar conflict sounds awesome, wait until we mix in the new Chosen.



[#][F] John Mørke - 2/20/2013
MissMaddy wrote:
John Mørke wrote:
If a Dragon-Blooded wants into Yu-Shan, he needs a proper sponsor. If the powers that be find the idea of errant Dragon-Blooded distasteful, there's going to be an uproar if you march a bunch of beastmen into the city, to the tune of ten thousand thousand gods throwing explosive cloud furniture and adamant lingerie. Janitorial spirits are going to be mopping up your horde for weeks.


Side note, I hope that Beastmen Hordes are not the sum total of Lunar military combat philosophy anymore.

Or even really a key focus.

A few Lunars having Beastmen hordes? Fine and dandy ; particularly if that trait kinda defines them and the way they look at the world, like Ma Ha Suchi.

... but it being the end-all-be-all of Lunar military theory?

Not only was it kinda stupid, it made those that DID take this hugely extreme form of exotic warfare less special. In effect, what's Ma-Ha's real unique plan if... it's the same plan everybody else has?





Beastman horde isn't any different from human horde, except that a cowman army has butter wherever it goes. I can't believe it's not better. (snerk)



[#][F] John Mørke - 2/20/2013
If a Dragon-Blooded wants into Yu-Shan, he needs a proper sponsor. If the powers that be find the idea of errant Dragon-Blooded distasteful, there's going to be an uproar if you march a bunch of beastmen into the city, to the tune of ten thousand thousand gods throwing explosive cloud furniture and adamant lingerie. Janitorial spirits are going to be mopping up your horde for weeks.

[#][F] Holden - 2/20/2013
Raziere wrote:
Holden wrote:


If you're looking to go stir up trouble in Heaven, an army is just about the last thing in the world you want to try to bring with you, considering that every single known means of entry is a natural choke point that makes Thermopylae Pass look like the open plains of the Serengeti, and that once the alarm goes up, you're going to be feeding mortals with wolf-heads single-file into a fight with, first, a Celestial Lion, and then a few minutes later, once his backup arrives, a lesser elemental dragon.

If you're smarter, and just go in by yourself, then probably the last place you want to pick to perform your assassinations is the building full of people who can see the future.


uh yeah um…..

about that….

what if…..hypothetically…..

Estasia opened a portal to the middle of the air in Yu-Shan…and began invading with ships and troops dropping from said ships, and Alchemicals going through the portals? with y'know, that high-essence charm Alchemicals use
to breach the Seal of Eight Divinities?

just curious as to how that would work out.


What does this have to do with this thread?

[#][F] Stephen Lea Sheppard - 2/20/2013
danelsan wrote:
Out of curiosity, let me ask: did anyone took the pledges above 10k?

No. Someone took the 10k "Your fan character will become canon in Homestuck" reward, but no one went for the 100k "Your fan character will become canon in Homestuck, and additionally will survive past the first panel."

Certainly no one went for the million dollar "Hussie will 'like' one of your tumblr posts" reward.

[#][F] Stephen Lea Sheppard - 2/20/2013
Raziere wrote:
Holden wrote:


If you're looking to go stir up trouble in Heaven, an army is just about the last thing in the world you want to try to bring with you, considering that every single known means of entry is a natural choke point that makes Thermopylae Pass look like the open plains of the Serengeti, and that once the alarm goes up, you're going to be feeding mortals with wolf-heads single-file into a fight with, first, a Celestial Lion, and then a few minutes later, once his backup arrives, a lesser elemental dragon.

If you're smarter, and just go in by yourself, then probably the last place you want to pick to perform your assassinations is the building full of people who can see the future.


uh yeah um…..

about that….

what if…..hypothetically…..

Estasia opened a portal to the middle of the air in Yu-Shan…and began invading with ships and troops dropping from said ships, and Alchemicals going through the portals? with y'know, that high-essence charm Alchemicals use
to breach the Seal of Eight Divinities?

just curious as to how that would work out.


I personally would bet on the Aerial Legion, backed up by the regional war gods and their Celestial subordinates, the censors, and the celestial lions and lion dogs.

[#][F] Holden - 2/20/2013
Coik wrote:
Okay, this is bothering me, and while I probably will betray some massive ignorance or wrongheaded assumptions in asking, I have to ask or it's going to eat at me.

Given that...

Holden wrote:
Considering that it's not arduously difficult for a Lunar to get into Heaven and that they decided they were no longer going to play by anyone else's rules a long time ago, that is not a feud that lots of Celestial gods are itching to insert themselves into.


...and...

Holden wrote:
The Lunars have zero interest in maintaining the status quo and if they had access to a bunch of nukes, they would be trying to smuggle them into the Imperial City and set them off.


And my own point a few posts ago about how it's not that hard to know exactly where to find the Sidereals in Heaven...

I mean, am I wrong in thinking that the logical conclusion of these facts is that Yu-Shan should have seen a scourge of millions of beastmen laying siege to the Lotus Dome a few years after the Usurpation? I mean, yeah, the gods/Celestial Lions/etc probably would have resisted, but give Lunars a few years to breed a craptop of disposable beastmooks and zerg rush a-go-go.

I'll freely admit that it's been years since I've read the beastman rules and I don't think I even own the books they're in any longer, so I'm probably very off base here, but this is bugging me.


If you're looking to go stir up trouble in Heaven, an army is just about the last thing in the world you want to try to bring with you, considering that every single known means of entry is a natural choke point that makes Thermopylae Pass look like the open plains of the Serengeti, and that once the alarm goes up, you're going to be feeding mortals with wolf-heads single-file into a fight with, first, a Celestial Lion, and then a few minutes later, once his backup arrives, a lesser elemental dragon.

If you're smarter, and just go in by yourself, then probably the last place you want to pick to perform your assassinations is the building full of people who can see the future.

[#][F] John Mørke - 2/20/2013
There's weird shit going down all over the Lunar/Sidereal feud. Faxai is the site of a Realm/Guild alliance for example.

As to the war, it could be hot or cold! You might say it's cold because the Lunars aren't laying siege to Heaven and the Sidereals try to avoid fighting them in person. A Lunar is more likely to die to Sidereal agency in the form of opening his breakfast cereal, realizing only too late that it has been replaced with Quaker Instant Foot Clan.

[#][F] Stephen Lea Sheppard - 2/19/2013
Drakhan Valane wrote:
danelsan wrote:
I just hope I can win the lottery in time for the $1.000.000,00 pledge reward "your favored playstyle is now objectively the right way to play the game" XD

Pffft. They can't set pledge levels above $10k.

Hussie did it.

[#][F] Stephen Lea Sheppard - 2/19/2013
I had a really productive Skype discussion this morning with Holden regarding polishing up some of the prose in the few sections I'm writing -- most of the book I'm the editor (in the RPG sense of "proofreader"), but I'm doing the [REDACTED] in the [REDACTED] as well as sections on [REDACTED] and [REDACTED] in chapter [REDACTED]. He also showed me some of the early [REDACTED], which are coming out nice, although I did make a comment that might fix a problem as well as piss of someone who has to enact the fix. I always love doing that. I'm a helper!

We're quiet because we are busy as fuck.