Tomb of Dreams now in Proofing.

[#][F] Stephen Lea Sheppard - 2/16/2017
Originally posted by The Unsung Hero View Post
IIRC, the jumpstart is supposed to have both the 1e/2e circle AND the new 3e circle as premade characters to play the adventure with. So Dace, Panther, Arianna, Harmonious Jade, and Swan, and then Volfier, Perfect Soul, Shen, Novia, and Prince Diamond... again, this is pulling from some VERY old info in my brain.
That was the original plan, then I realized a couple of things:

1) There's no use putting a signature character as playable in the JS unless the JS both presents what makes them cool and gives them an opportunity to use that coolness during the scenario.
2) Between them, the ten signature characters cover pretty much every ability, every Charm tree, and every scenario and behavior type supported by the game.

I'm not putting in Prince Diamond without including Ember and familiars and horsemanship, f'rex, but the scenario-concept that made me sit up and go "Hold on, I can do this!" and pitch it to Holden during the KS doesn't allow for that, and I'm not shucking the scenario I want to do in order to do a different scenario that does allow for familiars and horsemanship and also the signature thing for the other nine of 'em.

So the JS has a smaller, more curated list of pregens.

[#][F] Eric Minton - 3/3/2017
Originally posted by SpruceStripedGoose View Post

Couldn't the other signature pre-gens have been included just for the sake of completeness? I get what you are saying that they don't all necessarily fit in with the narrative of the quickstart, but it also feels kinda weird that they aren't all going into print in one place, I didn't think a circle would be broken up that way in how they are unveiled. You could just note which characters work best with the campaign, and have the others as examples for play beyond the scope of the quickstart.
On the one hand, I don't think there's any reason to assume that stat blocks for every signature character from every edition are guaranteed to see print in 3e. On the other hand, if there's a need to print, say, the 3e signature Solar Circle in an upcoming supplement, then I expect that they'll all be printed in that supplement, rather than expecting the reader to have access to Tomb of Dreams.

[#][F] Stephen Lea Sheppard - 3/3/2017
Only one of those three Zeniths is a pregen in Tomb of Dreams. Can you guess which one?

[#][F] Eric Minton - 3/3/2017
Originally posted by Stephen Lea Sheppard View Post
Only one of those three Zeniths is a pregen in Tomb of Dreams. Can you guess which one?
I can!

Though that's not really guessing.

[#][F] Stephen Lea Sheppard - 3/3/2017
I was going to be coy and neither confirm nor deny guesses, but, yeah, that Karal Fire Orchid picture does sort of give the game away. So.

Iay Selak-Amu is clearly the pregen Twilight, and Karal Fire Orchid is the pregen Zenith. People want to try guessing the remaining pregens based on that pattern and what they know of me as a creative type?

[#][F] Stephen Lea Sheppard - 3/3/2017
Those could certainly be a reasonable set of choices.

[#][F] Stephen Lea Sheppard - 3/4/2017
Y'all may be overestimating the degree to which the scenario takes into account the pregens' backgrounds.

[#][F] Eric Minton - 3/4/2017
They've had some time to present their guesses, so I think it's only fair to give them the answers.

Dawn: Lyta
Night: Havesh the Vanisher
Eclipse: Scarlet Whisper

[#][F] Stephen Lea Sheppard - 3/6/2017
Hey, "An artist got cheeky and drew something they weren't asked to draw" is how we got Jean Grey dead for a decade. Never let it be said that artists doodling random bullshit doesn't affect canon.

(I prefer Crow not being dead, but, look, regardless of what the writer intended, that's a picture of Tepet Ejava killing Crow. There's no way the artist accidentally drew her killing a random Solar urchin who just happens to look like Crow.)

[#][F] Stephen Lea Sheppard - 3/6/2017
Crow the Boy is a sample Night Caste (I think?) from the castebooks. She's called Crow the Boy because she posed as a boy when she was running with youth gangs in Nexus before she Exalted; she Exalted, she's still in youth gangs, but now she leads one, and she's no longer pretending to be a boy but Crow the Boy as her name has stuck. She may or may not be some sort of LGBT or genderfluid representation depending on how you read her.

She wasn't one of the characters who got a full writeup; she just got a summary at the end of the book under "Other Night Castes." She did get a portrait.

In Aspect Book: Wood, Tepet Ejava tells the story of hunting down and killing a child Solar in some city somewhere as part of a Wyld Hunt, but the illustration very clearly uses Crow the Boy's character design for the child Solar she's killing. We have word from the writer of that section that it wasn't intended to be any Solar in particular the Roseblack killed (and, indeed, writers do not write art notes, so they couldn't have known that scenario would get an illo), so the likeliest explanation is that the artist was trying to be clever. (Specifically the sort of cleverness that would leave me absolutely livid if it happened under my nose during the process of developing a book, but maybe that's just me.)

[#][F] Stephen Lea Sheppard - 3/7/2017
Right. I wasn't sure whether she was Night or Eclipse.

(This pretty much confirms that Crow the Boy isn't the sample Eclipse I used in Tomb of Dreams.)

[#][F] Stephen Lea Sheppard - 3/7/2017
Originally posted by Mockery View Post

Come again? I know that the artist taking liberties with the writer's intent is how Hank Pym ended up The Wife Beater, but I wasn't aware of this one.
Chris Clairemont wrote Jean Grey going Dark Phoenix and eating a star, but hadn't intended it to be one with an inhabited world. When drawing the issue, John Byrne inserted a frame of a doomed alien race looking up at their star as it died.

(There's narration acknowledging this, but that's because Marvel books at the time followed a process where the writer would write an outline, and the artist would draw the issue, and then the writer would go back and write the specific dialogue and narration around what the artist drew.)

Later on, at the conclusion of the Dark Phoenix Saga, Clairmont originally intended for Jean to survive, but editorial went "Uh, no, she killed an inhabited world and genocided a whole civilization. She's gotta die; we're not having Hitler on our X-Men."

Much later, they came up with the retcon: The Phoenix who we saw during the Phoenix and Dark Phoenix arcs wasn't actually Jean Grey; it was a cosmic entity that took her form and memories and sent her body into suspended animation. That's what died at the end of the Dark Phoenix saga. The actual Jean Grey isn't culpable for the death of a whole civilization, and we can bring her back by having the Avengers and Fantastic Four find the cosmic cocoon where the real Jean is still in stasis.

And then even later the Phoenix Force comes back and Jean temporarily merges with it and gets its memories of its time pretending to be her, so stuff it did as her can remain part of her biography and be referenced as stuff she remembers doing, all without her ever being culpable for its deeds.

Comics, everybody!

(I highly recommend the podcast Jay and Miles X-Plain the X-Men, by the way.)

[#][F] Stephen Lea Sheppard - 3/7/2017
It's probably not so much that the artist disliked the character as the artist thought "Oh, hey, this would be cooler if I drew a specific Solar instead of a generic Solar."

[#][F] Stephen Lea Sheppard - 3/7/2017
Originally posted by glamourweaver View Post
Reminds me of DC's Parallax mess.
That sort of thing is fairly endemic to long-running serial media. Hence "Comics, everybody!"

(But see also: The Two Kuklas.)

[#][F] Stephen Lea Sheppard - 3/7/2017
Oh, man, I'd forgotten that was Mel.

Yeah. Mel has no problem with Crow; she just liked the way she looked. But this has resulted in Crow being sort-of semicanonically dead, which is obviously Not Optimal, and was certainly not the intent.

(I'd "fix" this by putting a statted Crow in a future book with a custom fake-my-own-death Charm, but down that road lies Jean Grey, so.)

[#][F] Stephen Lea Sheppard - 3/7/2017
Oh, man, I should have made Crow the sample Eclipse and put a bit in her bio about how she's out adventuring instead of leading her Nexus gangs 'cause she skipped town after faking her death to escape a Wyld Hunt.

(No. This would not have been a good idea. Also, Holden would have vetoed it as too cute and too much of an obscure reference, and he would have been right to.)

[#][F] Stephen Lea Sheppard - 3/7/2017
No, it does not.