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[#][F] The Demented One - 3/28/2017
Originally posted by Tiresias View Post

And that's the story of how Vance beat Neall's record for fastest developer to get fired.

oh god I fucked up I fucked up I fucked up

[#][F] The Demented One - 3/28/2017
Originally posted by SpruceStripedGoose View Post
I don't think I want to see evocations that just say "exalts who are dissonant with this artifact cannot learn this evocation" or "only exalts who are resonant with this artifact can learn this evocation", if they are going to be gated it should be because they need something outside of the tree to make them work, otherwise I am ok with the MA model where you can get all the evocations but they might not all be as powerful depending on your splat.
I'll be honest with you: there are gonna be a couple things that are gated off from Exalted who are dissonant with the material. This is mostly because a lot of artifacts are going to have capstone Evocations that are incredibly powerful, and sometimes there isn't an elegant way to gate it behind a Solar Charm. I don't think there will be stuff that requires resonance to learn—that's just too steep.

[#][F] The Demented One - 3/28/2017
Originally posted by Gigaton-Falcon-Emu View Post
I found the 'era' label to be interesting, will this be a trend to artifacts from now on? I hope it is even if it has no direct mechanic effect.
Yes, it's a neat bit of flavor.

[#][F] The Demented One - 3/28/2017
Originally posted by Kyman201 View Post
Hm... How does Stormcaller's Sheathing Attack effect interact with the fluff of the Single Point Style of sheathing one's blade after every strike? Can it be assumed that there's a difference between casually sheathing the blade for an instant attack and deliberately sealing away the storm?
Practicing iaijutsu with Stormcaller is extremely inadvisable.

[#][F] The Demented One - 3/28/2017
Originally posted by CycloneJoker View Post
I'm sliiiightly disappointed that Dragon-Blooded are Resonant with Jade but Dissonant with everything else, in light of previous material noting that Dragon-Blooded were supposedly very nearly the equals of Solars in the wielding of Evocations.
Keep in mind that being resonant with jade means that when a Dragon-Blooded picks up a daiklave, she's getting the same power level of Evocations as a Solar. Compare to that the Exalts nearest in relative power to the Dragon-Blooded, the Liminals, who don't even get Resonant off of soulsteel.

[#][F] The Demented One - 3/28/2017
Originally posted by Gigaton-Falcon-Emu View Post
Also is it fair to say that Deathlords count as one of the exceptions and are resonant with Soulsteel?
Oh yeah, definitely.

[#][F] The Demented One - 3/28/2017
Originally posted by CycloneJoker View Post

True, and Jade is a lot more common than any other MM to boot, admittedly. XD It also makes them equal overall to the Sidereals and Getimians, which is...interesting.

Still though, I might have to houserule it up further to please some of the more rabid DB fans in my group. XD Probably by making it work like it does for Lunars instead.
Maybe wait until your group sees the level of power packed in the Dragon-Blooded Charmset.

[#][F] The Demented One - 3/28/2017
Originally posted by ScarecrowJ View Post
Question with the "Free Full Melee Excellency": What happens if you're an attribute exalt? I assume it's a free full Dexterity excellency instead, but I just want to make sure.
-snip-

and wordcount goes down by 1!

[#][F] Stephen Lea Sheppard - 3/28/2017
Notionally, every Exalt who bonds with a particular artifact can potentially develop a unique Evocation suite. Practically, everyone is mostly gonna use what's published. (People are just going to go "Okay the published evocations for this thing are my unique suite and everybody else developed other ones.") Resonant and Dissonant let us do published evocations useful to everyone that describe the power differential between Solars and, say, Liminals, without having to write nine or ten different evocation sets for every artifact.

[#][F] The Demented One - 3/28/2017
Originally posted by Apromor View Post
Can we do something about that apostrophe in "devil's" though? That's not right. (I'm too weak for enlightenment https://xkcd.com/1238/)
Point out where it is, and I'll fix it.

EDIT: Ah, found it. Take that, typo!

[#][F] The Demented One - 3/29/2017
Originally posted by Sunder the Gold View Post
There are limits even to Solar excellence. Solars do not have the souls of Dragons, and reasonably cannot meet the highest Elemental demands of Jade.
Hold on to this idea, and once we start previewing the Dragon-Blooded Charms, come back to it.

[#][F] Eric Minton - 3/29/2017
Stormcaller's abilities fit with the Ex3 corebook presentation of orichalcum's properties as a magical material (p.613).

[#][F] Eric Minton - 3/29/2017
While I was not privy to the writing of the corebook magical materials section, my understanding would be that this is taking elemental power as an expression of dynamic energy. Note that all of the examples presented are massive outpourings of raw force, with nothing subtle or passive about them. Yang energy, basically. I would look askance at an orichalcum version of Spring Razor, and doubly so at an orichalcum Shining Ice Mirror.

I understand that this is exegesis! One can easily disagree with exegesis in good faith. But it's my understanding of the intent, and I hope to clarify this in Arms of the Chosen.

[#][F] The Demented One - 3/29/2017
Originally posted by SrGrvsaLot View Post
The range of Storm-caller's sheathed-lightning attack is one range band per Intensity, which seems high. It would probably work fine for the most common scenarios, where the wielder is only likely to hit a couple of points of Intensity, but it should really be capped, because even for an Essence 1 Dissonant character, 4 range bands is Long Range, or up to the maximum range of a longbow. The fifth Intensity would get you to Extreme range, where enemies are just a speck. Intensity 10 will get you five extreme range bands more than that, which is both poorly defined in the corebook and probably really, really large. Are we talking about a few square miles here? A region? More?


Originally posted by Seeker View Post
First off, let it be known that I may or may not be having a complete and utter meltdown at the shifts this might create. A good one, but, you know... yeah.

Second, this is more a small editorial quirk than anything serious, but it's similar to instances that earned a lot of ire in the core book: you may want to shift the rules for the rice wine purification ritual up out of a single evocation (Storm Binding: Lightning Cleaves the Heavens) and into, say, the passive attunement-bonus evocation. Or come up with a new tag, like "Misc.:" to go around Tags or Hearthstone. I understand that the evocation in question forces an earlier purification, but the way the charm is written implies that the mechanics of this ritual are the same regardless of the potential early trigger, and as such are probably going to be relevant even to those who have not reached said evocation.

Hey, this is a bit late, but I wanted to thank both of you for these comments—they were very helpful, and I've edited Stormcaller's write up to address them. Getting this kind of constructive criticism on preview material is really useful for me.

[#][F] The Demented One - 3/31/2017
Originally posted by BrilliantRain View Post
...Hey Vance, there was a comment from one of the previous Devs that there might be something in Arms that would give some help with creating your own Evocations, other than just providing lots of examples. Is that still gonna be a thing or did that need to get cut, due to a tighter deadline or other issues?
It's not something that was in the original outline of the book, but it is something we're interested in adding to Arms if time and workflow allows. The major obstacle here is that right now, Eric and I are the only writers with enough familiarity writing artifacts for the current Evocation system to write guidelines that are informed by the benefit of experience, and we both already have lots of work to do on Arms. Can't make promises, but I'll try.

[#][F] The Demented One - 3/31/2017
Originally posted by Janissary87 View Post
Anyway, even if it's not in AotC, I'd be willing to pay $30 for 20 pages with of content explaining what to look out for when designing custom charms, just red flags and design principles and things one shouldn't do in charms/evocations etc. Between how much 3e emphasizes this and all the fiddly bits in combat and craftimg, this is something everyone could make a hell of a lot of use out of.
This is gonna be a big part of Exigents, in addition to the power matrix.

[#][F] The Demented One - 4/9/2017
Originally posted by Nilihum View Post
I've no idea if anyone is interested or cares or if I should post this in the Inspirational art thread, but I just thought I'd share the fact that someone (no idea who) has made fan art of Stormcaller. What do you think Robert Vance, Eric Minton?

That's awesome!

[#][F] Eric Minton - 4/9/2017
Originally posted by Nilihum View Post
I've no idea if anyone is interested or cares or if I should post this in the Inspirational art thread, but I just thought I'd share the fact that someone (no idea who) has made fan art of Stormcaller. What do you think Robert Vance, Eric Minton?

That's pretty sweet!

It did give me a moment of dissonance as I thought, "That guard design looks cool, but it could easily get caught on something as you draw it," until I remembered that it's a grand daiklave and thus so big you'd have to wear it slung over your shoulder, where the guard won't get in the way after all.

[#][F] Eric Minton - 4/9/2017
Originally posted by Kyman201 View Post

Not to nitpick, but isn't Stormcaller a Reaper Daiklave?
Oops, you're right, I misremembered. Point still stands though. 😅

[#][F] Eric Minton - 4/18/2017
Originally posted by ElOhTeeBee View Post
...yes? tencharacters
That sentence fragment has already been deleted in the draft; you can safely ignore it.

[#][F] Eric Minton - 4/19/2017
Originally posted by CycloneJoker View Post
But for those who ARE dipping into Evocations, well...you can sort of turn that around and point out that to reeeally get the most out of Jade's theoretical versatility in general you *have* to have an artifact containing all five different colors of it.
The dominant color of jade in a jade artifact is treated as its primary magical material for purposes of associations. You can add multiple colors to a specific artifact when appropriate, much as Shining Ice Mirror in the core adds starmetal to blue jade to flavor a particular approach to its magic. But dumping all five colors of jade into a blender isn't a no-brainer thematic enhancer to give you The Powers Of All Five Elements Combined.

[#][F] Eric Minton - 4/21/2017
Originally posted by Kyman201 View Post
Now like you said, Vance himself said that most Warstriders are like 15-25 feet tall
30 feet. The corebook illo of the Imperial City military parade shows some around that size.